Hoda Kotb and Jenna Bush Hager had a heartfelt, tearful begin to their Thursday.

During the 1/3 hour of Today, Kotb and Bush Hager talked about motherhood as they pondered on Hilary Swank’s current pregnancy statement.

The 48-yr-antique actress announced Wednesday on Good Morning America that she and husband Philip Schneider are waiting for twins. Kotb — who became a mother at fifty two and now has daughters Hope, 3, and Haley, 5 — spoke about how when it comes to being a determine, “it is so funny approximately whilst it is time, while is the right time to do it.”

“Some people are planners and I absolutely get it,” she defined, noting individuals who want to perform positive things earlier than beginning a own family.

“But life is funny, it does not care what your dumb plan is.”

Bush Hager — mom to Henry “Hal” Harold, 2, Poppy Louise, 6, and Margaret “Mila” Laura, nine — asked Kotb while she concept, developing up, that she might grow to be a mother.

“I think I constantly assumed it, so I didn’t plan for it,” Kotb responded. “I simply knew that become a part of me. I do not know that I thought ‘nicely I higher hurry.’

I simply continually assumed it become going on, till someday I looked at my existence and found out.” Explaining that there has been a point wherein she worried she’d put too much into her career and that motherhood won’t be inside the playing cards for her, Kotb recalled trying to make peace with no longer being a mother as she navigated her health troubles.

Kotb, fifty eight, stated she felt “grasping” for nevertheless trying to be a mom due to the fact she’d already been given “plenty of advantages.”

“You feel grasping announcing ‘please can I actually have one extra blessing?’ You experience like that’s plenty to ask for,” Kotb tearfully shared.

Bush Hager, forty, recalled growing up trying to be a spouse and a mom extra than whatever, but that she does not see the same in her daughters.

“My largest dream changed into to be a mother,” she shared, tearing up. “That’s all I wanted. And my girls, I stated to Henry, they have these other desires.”

“Mila’s like ‘I’m going to jot down a story, I’m going to be an author. I’m going to be a lawyer,’ all these items. Poppy’s like ‘I’m going to be an actor.'”

While they dream approximately all varieties of matters, Bush Hager stated “they don’t communicate about motherhood or marrying.”

“I sort of love that maybe due to the fact their mom worked — and my mother labored too — that I stand up each day and I’m not there to lead them to breakfast, however they see something special,” she said. “They’re like ‘that’s what’s obtainable, opportunities for me, I can do this,'” Kotb replied in agreement.

Bush Hager then applauded Kotb for “showing people like my sister, who had toddlers a little later, like Hilary, like every of those those who perhaps their dreams didn’t come proper at the age they notion they had been going to, but it could take place whilst it’s purported to manifest.”

“I will ride or die with this one.” — @hodakotb about @JennaBushHager ❤️

We’re reflecting on when is the right time to do what you want, and when life has other plans.

— TODAY with Hoda & Jenna (@HodaAndJenna) October 6, 2022

“I do think that that’s precisely whilst it does appear,” Kotb brought. “It’s beautiful irrespective of whilst it does.”